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How much do good new snowmobiles cost? Which are the best ones, and are they allowed on roads in US/Canada?

I had an idea for a large winter trip through the northern continental U.S., Canada, and Alaska. I thought a snowmobile would be the best form of transportation for most of it, but as it doesn’t snow very much where I’m from I’m not really sure if buying one would be economically feasible. I want to find out how much a good one would cost before planning anything further.

Also, I read on Wikipedia that they can go over 100 mph. Are they allowed on roads the same as cars in the U.S. and Canada? Or are they only allowed on trails and forest service roads?

Thanks!

When I lived in Northern Ontario, snowmobiles or “sleds” are a popular form of winter recreation. While its not uncommon to see them parked at a local Tim Hortons, they are not permitted to travel on the roads with regular traffic, nor along the shoulders of roads. They can cross roads, but only at marked intervals. We have a lot of trails up here, most private, and a few that you must purchase a season’s pass in order to travel on, which are taken care of bu the MNR (Ministry of Natural Resources). They grate them, clear brush that grows on them, and the OPP (Ontario Provincial Police) patrol them on sleds of their own, arresting speeders, drunk drivers and fineing those without a trail pass.

Yes, sleds can reach speeds of 100mph, but you’d be a fool to travel anywhere north of 40mph on one. They are easily flipped, easily ditched and too many deaths occur each year from improper handling. In fact, I do believe Canada has more snowmobiling deaths than actual murders per year.

They are also quite expensive. Think the cost of a low end used Sedan for a used sled, or one with low output motor. A good one will run you upwards of $10,000.

Keep in mind also that you would have to map your trip rather carefully, to make sure you keep to regulated trails. As a large land owner, I did not take kindly to random strangers speeding through my property sans permission. Also to make sure you steer clear of running water that may appear frozen. Too many people fall through ice each year, dragged down by a heavy snow machine, crossing rivers and lakes that they thought should have been frozen.

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Camping and Horse Trails in Colorado

The beauty of Colorado is quite inviting to nature lovers everywhere and the miles and miles of scenic trails winding through the state make Colorado even more appealing.  There are thousands of miles of trails in Colorado, ranging from easy to quite challenging and strenuous.  Some trails are designated for hiking and bicycling, while some are used for all terrain vehicles and off-roading.  There are also hundreds of miles of bridle trails winding through the gorgeous landscapes of Colorado.

There are 54 national recreation areas in Colorado that offer several miles of trails for horseback riding, including 6 national parks, as well as 20 Colorado state parks with equestrian trails.  Three US Forest Service campgrounds provide horse camping sites and 2 of Colorado’s state parks offer campgrounds with nearby horse corrals.  There are also horses for rent at several of the recreation areas and state parks.

San Isabel National Forest in central Colorado has four designated trails for horseback riding and 2 campgrounds that offer horse sites.  Alvarado Reservation Campground has 3 horse camping sites that allow 8 people each.  Toilets and drinking water from a hand pump are provided and the campground is near the breathtaking and challenging Sangre de Cristo wilderness trails.  Don’t forget to carry a Coleman emergency poncho in case you’re caught in one of the common afternoon thunderstorms.

The Purgatoire Reservation Campground also accommodates 8 campers with horses and provides a selection of 8 horse camping sites.  Jacks Gulch campground in northern Colorado just west of Fort Collins offers 5 horse camping sites with corrals and several nearby trails for riding.  Visitors to Jacks Gulch can also enjoy bicycling, hiking, fishing, riding ATVs, and observing a variety of wildlife, especially an abundance of birds.

Vega State Park in central Collbran, Colorado has convenient parking for horse trailers with access to hundreds of miles of trails for horseback riding in the Grand Mesa National Forest.  Horse camping is not available in this Colorado state park, but corrals are located next to the rustic cabins and not far from the family campgrounds.  Corrals can be reserved ahead of time.

One of the four developed campgrounds in Colorado State Forest State Park, Brockman Campground, has recently added corral facilities for horse camping.  State Forest State Park offers over 50 miles of trails and roadways that can be used for horseback riding, as well as hiking, bicycling, boating, and fishing opportunities.  This park also has cabin and yurt rentals year round.

If you’re interested in camping and horseback riding in Colorado but don’t own a horse, both Cherry Creek State Park and Chatfield State Park have stables conveniently located within the facilities that offer guided tours and horse rentals.  Just south of Denver, Cherry Creek State Park is quite popular year round because of its extensive and scenic trails and wide array of amenities, including a marina and a model airplane field.

If you are horse camping in Colorado, it is important to remember that all the horse feed used on state or national grounds must be certified as weed free.  This includes hay and pellets.  Check with the campground or park you plan to camp at ahead of time for other regulations regarding your horse.  Some corrals do not have water so it may be necessary to bring buckets or a hose.

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Need help selecting GPS unit and good maps (topo, etc) for off-road/dirt road navigation.?

I’ve been doing lots of research but I keep finding either outdated or conflicting info. What I need is a GPS that comes with, or will allow me to load maps that show old, barely used off road vehicle trails, hiking trails, and forest service roads. I’d prefer to have the option to actually navigate with these maps, or at least to add my own way points along selected routes so I can track.
ALSO- It’d be nice if I could use the GPS for standard highway/city navigation and POI finding.

So, in summary my questions are:

Is it best to buy two separate units, like a nuvi AND something like the garmin colorado, or can I load decent navigable topos onto a nuvi and have a single unit? What are the implications of such a choice?

Do the Garmin Colorado/Oregon/Dakota units have stronger reception than nuvis in canyons, etc, or are they just “more rugged”?

Please advise a good approach. Thanks!!

Consult in ATU,they are very good..

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